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Pissonpeta	December 22 2004 11:37AM (Read 1365 times)
Regular Contributor Status: offline Registered: 03/10/03 Posts: 300	I would assume a large number of the people on this site are avid hunters and are out hunting with a gun more than one weekend a year. This brings me to the point about all the deer hunting accidents this year. It seems to me that there are a lot of people who pick up a shotgun for a few days of deer hunting and then lock the guns up until next year. I think those of us who spend time duck or pheasant hunting prior to deer season are a much safer group of hunters than these one week warriors. Why do they give hunting licenses away like candy? In order to buy a license you must show your hunters safety card and I know that I could go 10 Wal-Mart stores and only 1 would ask to see my hunters safety card before they give me a license. Also, the incident with the 10 yr. old boy just tears me up inside. I strongly encourage and support teaching a kid to hunt. I also feel if you are taking a kid out and he/she is carrying a gun then you as an adult should not be carrying a gun. Be there to guide them and provide them all the means possible to have a safe hunt.
scruffy	December 22 2004 12:01PM
Senior Member Status: offline Registered: 07/15/04 Posts: 2477	If I'm not mistaken the new liscense machines check the DNR database to ensure you have taken a hunters safety class when the employee scans you drivers liscense through the machine. I'm sure it does all kinds of checks before giving you a liscense. But I'm like you, to many one week a year, or one weekend a year hunters. But I don't think the solution is not giving them a liscense. I think a better solution is getting them out there hunting another 15 to 20 weekends a year. Like anything else, the more you hunt the better you are. But, in alot of peoples defense, we all live busy lives, some people have to take off work to go hunting, some people don't have hunter friendly families at home and it's not acceptible to be running to the woods all the time, and the list of reasons goes on and on. But I imagine many of the "one weekend warriars" would go out more if they could. Some just need to be invited because they don't know where to hunt, don't know how to get permission, and don't enjoy hunting by themselves. I know guys like this, one guy I take off time from work and take turkey hunting. Last year he handled all the leg work scouting and getting permision. He went every time he could, half the time by himself, something he never did in the past. This past deer season he didn't party hunt (not that party hunting is wrong, but his group kill more beers than deer....) but instead got permission to hunt some farms, paterned the deer, hung some stands, and hunted by himself. It's often said, "you're either the problem or the solution." We all need to be the solution. later, scruffy south central IA...calling coyotes is a matter of how close you can call them, not how far away you can shoot (miss) them.
Aprock	December 22 2004 12:01PM
Senior Member Status: offline Registered: 12/07/02 Posts: 1385	They don't give out "cards" anymore. My kids all went through the course and none of them got cards. Apparently they put the info in the database and when one goe to buy a license, the system checks your info. When I got my sons on the 'net this year it never asked for the number but it was printed on his license. When we were buying deer tags I saw a guy (once a year type hunter - needed regular license and deer tag) get denied cause the machine came back with a code saying he hadn't taken a course and was not old enough to be grandfathered in. I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Flyfisher	December 22 2004 12:15PM
Status: offline Registered: 12/22/03 Posts: 40	I sell deer licenses at a hardware store, and the computer wont even let you issue a license the first time until the hunter's safety number is entered into the computer. They dont give them away like candy and there is no way that someone can get their license without first taking a hunter safety course. I shot the minnow!
bigbucks3	December 22 2004 12:51PM
Senior Member Status: offline Registered: 12/22/03 Posts: 623	mikey- a buddy of ours got one. he made up a fake hunter safety number. he got it from wal-mart they entered the number, and then he got the license. he used a combination of his name and his birthdate.
Setter	December 22 2004 01:25PM
Senior Member Status: offline Registered: 03/23/02 Posts: 1236	Residents born after Jan 1,1972,and nonresidents born after 1,1967,must show proof of having passed a Hunter Education Course to buy a hunting license. This is how it works.The first time you ever buy a license and you fall under the above guidelines you will have to show them proof.After that you are in the system and your hunter safety # comes up with your name or SSN #.I was asked for mine many years ago and I've had a few friends come into state and was right next to them when the clerk asked for their hunter safety card. Big Bucks,your statement just bothers the hell out of me.You had a "buddy" that lied to get a hunting license?It's all of us true nature lovers,hunters,anglers,etc,that someday somewhere pay for people like this.Plus the thought of myself out hunting with friends and family while some guy who lied about his hunter safety could be in the same area.Do yourself and all of us a favor youngman-tell your buddy to get his course taken. Ryan Hale http://www.ryanhale.net
Anonymous: Black Labs	December 22 2004 01:30PM
	The date for the hunter safety required courses are everyone born after 1967. I was born in 1971, so I should have a number on my license, right? Wrong! When I moved down to Iowa in 1995, I bought my first license. I told the clerk at Wal-mart, that I just moved here from Wisconsin and that I had taken hunter safety in Wisconsin but didn't have the number. He just put in n/a and I got my license. Granted, I really did take the hunter safety course, but the clerk didn't know that....he just gave me the license. So, they will and do issue licenses without proof of having ever taken the course. Mine still doesn't have a number on it and the DNR has never questioned me about it when they check me. Labs
michelobman	December 22 2004 01:38PM
Status: offline Registered: 06/13/04 Posts: 13	I don't have a hunters safety # and I have gotten a liscense the last two seasons. I moved here from out of state and work 80 hours a week, not leaving much time for a 2 day course but I do plan on getting it done after this season. From my experience growing up in Alabama hunting since age 5, new hunters typically aren't the ones you see getting inot accidents. HEres my take. What I see is this: longer ranger muzzleloaders and slug guns along with increasing popularity of the sport in Iowa has more to do with the total number of accidents each year, not neccesarily the ones mentioned above but the total number. the avid hunters spend more time in the woods thus increasing their exposure and chance of getting into an accident. I beleive we need more room( more land) more and more hunters are occupying a limited amount of resources. I am for more education of hunters but I don't think blaming the rookies for accidents without factual proof is where we need to go.
Pissonpeta	December 22 2004 02:07PM
Regular Contributor Status: offline Registered: 03/10/03 Posts: 300	Michelobman, What I was trying to say was that there are a lot of people who want to deer hunt and have never taken the hunter safety course and go buy a license and BS the system....and the system as many have stated can be manipulated. Rookies..I am all for new people picking up the sport of hunting, but if you haven't taken the hunter safety course do yourself and others a favor stay out of the woods!
bowsandreels	December 22 2004 02:32PM
Senior Member Status: offline Registered: 01/24/04 Posts: 569	Am I the only one that thinks the current hunter safety system is a piece of crap? Think about it, would you feel safe on the road if all you had to do to get a licence was take a two day course that TALKED about how to drive!! I don't have all the answers, but what I do know is that the current system needs a lot of work. The message it give people is "I took this course, now I'm safe". The current system is only a good starting place, not a final answer. My $.02 Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you win you're still a retard

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